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how to get a 300

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how to get a 300

Postby smeag » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:20 pm

Can someone give me a method to score around 300 with minimum stated problems? Also, can you please tell me how many questions I can miss to get a 250+ by using the 300 "formula"

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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:34 pm

AHA! I found that there's a Fibbonachi thingymajiggy there.

Alright, I found that out from NsGuy's post. *raises hands in defeat*

Now that you mention it, I can do one or two on the TI-84.

THAT'S 10 PTS!!!! HALLELJUIA!!!PRAISE THE LORD! YIPPEE!

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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

Postby Shawn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:13 pm

This is how I would look at it. You have so many hours before regional. In these hours you need to maximize your knowledge base. A 300 is not achievable without instinctively knowing stated. I managed to score a 300 once at district. It would be fair to say that I practiced a lot and was most defiantly VERY familiar with stated. You just have to see and do enough problems that as you read them you instantly know what kind of question is, but also know sub-variations (this is where the mastery comes in). If you don't know how to do questions, post them here. I know between now and regional I will have a lot of time to answer them, and so will others. In the end please don't worry about "what it takes", but instead put 100% of your free time into taking exams and reviewing exams. In the end practice is king, because the tests are standardized. You have to know how to do stated problems, there is no reason why you should want to avoid them. You just need to do them, understand them, and if not get help on them (using your coach or on here). In the end scores don't matter at all, rankings matter. If you want to be better than the next person, than practice more, practice better (finding out what you don't know), and dedicate more time (goes to practicing more). In summary there is no magical formula for 300 that I know of. As others have pointed to there are very systematic ways of scoring well on these exams, but at the end of the day the best know how these exams are written, so exposure to massive amounts of questions are your best bet. If you know how to do problems, then you might want to move to a rotation where you don't do whole tests, but rather work on the problems you don't know how to do and then move back to whole exams every few exams. Good luck, and hopefully I will be seeing questions or your resources will be able to help you learn stated very well.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby smeag » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:59 am

I was just asking to know about how many I should do and get right! SOY DE NYEHH!
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby smeag » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:33 am

ok, what exactly is the study guide meant for?
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:48 pm

I've heard that it's a free 25 pts. Anyone care to elaborate? ?________?
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby redhawk2015 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:25 pm

The last five problems on the test are all study list problems. There are two study lists: one for stated and one for geometry. Problems 66, 67, and 68 come from the stated study list, and Problems 69 and 70 come from the geometry study list. However, the numbers are changed on each of the problems so that you have to actually figure out how to do them rather than just memorize answers. If you can study the lists and find a method for each problem, you can get an easy 25 points off those last five problems.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby smeag » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:59 am

when are they going to release next year's stated/geometry study list problems?
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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:22 pm

IDK...the last 5 problems? That seems like Calculus C level... I can't do it. I believe, however, that there are 3 specific problems that you can solve on the TI-84 on the second to last page, every test.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby 007math » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:24 pm

Actually, some of the last 5 can be very easy. I don't think any problem requires Calculus C..(what is that btw? I've heard of AB and BC but never C alone), but in general its more of problem solving then knowing pure math. Although some of them can be tough....until you know how to do them.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:29 pm

IDK. I don't know, but that stuff must be like in calculus XZ or something. DX
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby Shawn » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:46 pm

If you are talking about the stated study guide problems, all you have to do is memorize how to do them (at least historically they haven't been calculus, just hard problems that by memorizing simplified formulas become very simple). Isn't there a thread on here for those? It looked like others had been getting through them, but I will take a look at them later.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby nsguy1350 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:34 am

Ummm... 56-60 aren't usually that bad (except 60, which can be pretty tough at times.)
58 is usually a giveaway (well, I think I always answer it, but I might get it wrong occasionally, when I do something dumb.)
56 is often pretty easy, not as easy as 58 sometimes though.
57 is related rates, which I usually skip. I can do related rates, sometimes, but I think it takes too long to set up the problem and solve, when I could do others.
59 is usually integral, min/max, or solid of revolution, which I can do sometimes, but I skip due to time consumption usually.
And 60 is often future study guide so I usually glance and then skip if I don't know immediately.
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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:40 pm

I looked at the solid of revolution. That thing took me 20 min. DX

So easy, I know right? Have regards for the people that cannot perform at your level... D=

Well...if they're so easy, then I'll look into them again. Usually, I run out of time or skip. 56 I can enter into the calc... 58 was a matrix, but they're not that bad. I guess it just varies depending on the test...
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Re: how to get a 300

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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:19 pm

No, I did it by calc. It was an exaggeration. There's also like a 50% chance I'll get it wrong, and it usually takes me 5-7 min. Not worth the time to learn it right now. Maybe next year...?
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby 007math » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:18 pm

I agree with shawn...there is no reason for you to be taking more than 1 minute on those problems. Post the problem and maybe we can tell you how to do it much faster. On a side note, are you using a TI-89 or TI-84 (or maybe neither....)?
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:21 pm

TI-84. It gets the job done. Y no tengo mucho dinero para comprar una calculater nueva.
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby Shawn » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:32 pm

I used an 84 for a few years, so I can probably help you out, just make a thread with a few problems.(Even though I do believe an 89 is a competitive advantage)
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Re: how to get a 300

Postby BlasianAsian » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:48 pm

Oh well. Our school is a competitive failure to begin with, so whatever! =D

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